What is all this absurd blather about "What if torture works"? Can't any one see that it doesn't matter? It is still wrong, wrong, wrong, etc etc. It is evil and barbaric and any one who commits it is one of the bad guys by definition.
Sure it does "work." So does murder. Your wife won't shut up and she is going to divorce you and take all your money and the house and she is poisoning the kids against you? Murder her! It is guaranteed to solve those problems. You need money to pay your bills and buy stuff and keep the economy strong? Break into that rich guy's house and steal his stuff. Problem solved, right?
What is happening to us that we are even having this discussion? How did those sick, twisted creeps get away with this for so long?
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